How should we measure absolute strength?

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How should we measure absolute strength?

Posted By: Jim Ray (bench.doit.wisc.edu)
Date: Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 9:02 a.m.

In Response To: Formula's suck..Check this out Rob vs. Kennely (Frank Caminita)

(Leaving the gear debate aside, if that's possible. I'm debating the same issue on the USAPL forum, because I maintain that Jeff Lewis was just as strong as Brad Gillingham yesterday. Brad made his 3rd DL to tie Jeff, knowing he'd win on BWT. I'm just upset I couldn't watch. Here is my post reprinted from there):
"Forget bodyweight. (Typed like a fat guy would.) If a 132 lber lifts 500 and a SHW lifts 505, the SHW is stronger. There is no relativity in iron.
Pound for pound, Sugar Ray Robinson is considered by many experts to be the greatest boxer of all time. How would he do against Joe Louis or Ali?"

Messages In This Thread

Formula's suck..Check this out Rob vs. Kennely
Frank Caminita (68-114-103-24.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com) -- Sunday, July 15, 2007, @ 10:44 p.m.
- Re: Formula's suck..Check this out Rob vs. Kennely
  Jonathan Kariv (laran.wits.ac.za) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 7:27 a.m.
- Single/Double Gear Coeffiecients
  Kenny Croxdale (cpe-66-74-173-154.socal.res.rr.com) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 8:09 a.m.
  - Re: Single/Double Gear Coeffiecients
    Frank Caminita (68-114-103-24.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 8:34 a.m.
    - Wilks formula calculations
      Joe Marksteiner (HW-ESR1-208-102-19-224.fuse.net) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 5:38 p.m.
      - Joe's right.
        Kenny Croxdale (ip64-48-242-114.z242-48-64.customer.algx.net) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 6:51 p.m.
    - Statistics are based on numbers.
      Kenny Croxdale (ip64-48-242-114.z242-48-64.customer.algx.net) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 7:06 p.m.
      - The stats guy will figure out how to do it..
        Frank Caminita (68-114-103-24.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 7:44 p.m.
- I don't know where you got your numbers...........
  J.R. Bolger (ip68-99-202-101.ph.ph.cox.net) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 8:23 a.m.
  - Re: I don't know where you got your numbers.......
    brad heck (ip72-213-18-97.om.om.cox.net) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 8:31 a.m.
    - Brad, if formulas favored heavy guys.............
      J.R. Bolger (ip68-99-202-101.ph.ph.cox.net) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 12:34 p.m.
      - NOT...
        Frank Caminita (68-114-103-24.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 1:02 p.m.
      - Re: Brad, if formulas favored heavy guys..........
        brad heck (ip72-213-18-97.om.om.cox.net) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 7:47 p.m.
        
        this will be fun
        brad heck (ip72-213-18-97.om.om.cox.net) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 7:52 p.m.
        
        Re: this will be fun
        Frank Caminita (68-114-103-24.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com) -- Tuesday, July 17, 2007, @ 6:12 a.m.
        
        Re: this will be fun
        brad heck (ip72-213-18-97.om.om.cox.net) -- Tuesday, July 17, 2007, @ 8:38 a.m.
        
        Re: this will be fun
        Frank Caminita (68-114-103-24.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com) -- Tuesday, July 17, 2007, @ 8:47 a.m.
        
        Re: this will be fun
        brad heck (ip72-213-18-97.om.om.cox.net) -- Tuesday, July 17, 2007, @ 1:50 p.m.
        
        i meant cant win anything by them
        brad heck (ip72-213-18-97.om.om.cox.net) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 10:57 p.m.
- Re: Formula's suck..Check this out Rob vs. Kennely *LINK*
  Dammsilly (c-24-131-168-227.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 8:53 a.m.
- How should we measure absolute strength?
  Jim Ray (bench.doit.wisc.edu) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 9:02 a.m.
  - Re: How should we measure absolute strength?
    willie williams (ip148254.wvlc.pat.wvnet.edu) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 9:41 a.m.
  - Re: How should we measure absolute strength?
    Tom Isbell (66-169-56-060.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 10:00 a.m.
  - Re: How should we measure absolute strength?
    Jim's right (user-11fanbo.dsl.mindspring.com) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 7:22 p.m.
    - Re: How should we measure absolute strength?
      Jim Ray (bench.doit.wisc.edu) -- Tuesday, July 17, 2007, @ 7:13 a.m.
    - Re: How should we measure absolute strength?
      willie williams (ip148254.wvlc.pat.wvnet.edu) -- Wednesday, July 18, 2007, @ 8:14 a.m.
  - Re: How should we measure absolute strength?
    mark reifkind (c-67-180-241-53.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) -- Tuesday, July 17, 2007, @ 4:33 p.m.
    - I'm with you, Mark.
      Paul Kelso (124.104.38.205.pldt.net) -- Tuesday, July 17, 2007, @ 5:23 p.m.
      - Re: I'm with you, Mark.
        mark reifkind (c-67-180-241-53.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) -- Tuesday, July 17, 2007, @ 7:42 p.m.
      - That's not the issue
        Jim Ray (bench.doit.wisc.edu) -- Wednesday, July 18, 2007, @ 7:43 a.m.
        
        Re: That's not the issue
        les kellet (82-40-236-248.cable.ubr03.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk) -- Wednesday, July 18, 2007, @ 9:44 a.m.
        
        Bill, is that you?
        Jim Ray (bench.doit.wisc.edu) -- Wednesday, July 18, 2007, @ 10:30 a.m.
- Re: Formula's suck..Check this out Rob vs. Kennely
  Tom Isbell (66-169-56-060.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 9:57 a.m.
  - you have to give something for lifting records and
    Tom Bennett (adsl-234-40-21.jax.bellsouth.net) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 2:23 p.m.
  - also what about midgets...or REALLY stubby guys
    Tom Bennett (adsl-234-40-21.jax.bellsouth.net) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 2:26 p.m.
    - Re: also what about midgets...or REALLY stubby guy
      William Gregg (pool-68-239-63-126.bos.east.verizon.net) -- Tuesday, July 17, 2007, @ 10:40 a.m.
- wilks formula flawed for individual lifts *LINK*
  wilks info (cpe-71-64-137-79.woh.res.rr.com) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 3:29 p.m.
- Re: Formula's suck..Check this out Rob vs. Kennely
  Rob Luyando (74-136-163-95.dhcp.insightbb.com) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 5:25 p.m.
- Re: Formula's suck..Check this out Rob vs. Kennely
  Andrew Hart (cache-ntc-ab01.proxy.aol.com) -- Monday, July 16, 2007, @ 8:45 a.m.

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